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A randomly-presented selection of memorable quotes from people connected with BMC and its successors, all of which say something about the company, its management or its products...


We now have a completely new model
policy for the next four to five
years... when new models were brought
out, steps would be taken to ensure
they were right and they would not be
released until there were enough of
them in distributors showrooms for
the public to buy...

Donald Stokes, in 1968 on how to get product launches right...


An expert is someone who tells you
why you can't do something.

Alec Issigonis


The company is not lost, we are merely
in a cycle of decline...

Donald Stokes, tells the nation in 1974, that BLMC's troubles were merely temporary.


BMC can do anything, old boy.

George Harriman, to Roland Fox

"At Longbridge press preview [of the Vanden Plas 4-litre R] in the summer of 1964, Llewelyn Smith of Rolls-Royce and I were sitting with George Harriman on the top table in the exhibition hall. Someone asked how many we were going to make, and Harriman said, 'Two hundred a week.' Just like that. The Press hand-out said we would produce 100 a week so they naturally wanted to know which was the correct figure. 'Two-hundred a week,' re-affirmed Harriman. When he sat down, I said to him quietly, 'I can only do 100 a week.' He said, 'BMC can do anything, old boy.'"

Roland Fox, former MD of Vanden Plas, as quoted by Barney Sharratt in The Men and Motors of "The Austin".


An ugly fit, a bit like a train crash.

Stephen Bayley describing the merger of Austin and Morris in 1952 to form BMC.


I was not and I have never pretended
to be a manufacturing expert, ever.

Donald Stokes, defending himself against the repeated attacks on the products and policies of BLMC.

“I was not and I have never pretended to be a manufacturing expert, ever. I have no pretensions as to that. I am an engineer by training but I think that my strength lies in selling, and I think that it is worth recalling that we did sell, until the oil crisis, everything that BMC could make.”


The public don’t know what they want;
it’s my job to tell them.

Alec Issigonis


Do you think one can refuse a task like that?

Michael Edwardes, on how he felt when offered the post of Chairman and Managing Director of British Leyland.


If you build bloody good cars,
they’ll sell themselves.

Leonard Lord, in response to criticism that BMC was cutting its own throat with the pricing of the Mini.


We priced it at what the market could stand.

John Barber, on the Mini pricing fiasco.

"We priced it at what the market could stand. Then, almost as an afterthought, we would cost it and if it showed a loss, we would have to cost it again. BMC should have said: 'Where do we slot into the market? We’ve got the most sophisticated car in the world. We can afford to charge £100 more than the wretched Ford runabout'. Then, having got the Mini into the wrong slot, they did the same with the 1100's successor."


When the Prime Minister asks, it is
not a good thing to say ‘no’.

George Harriman, explaining why after appearing to have stalled, Leyland and BMC then resumed merger discussions – with a little help from the Government.


I don't want bloody women
driving my cars.

Alec Issigonis, in response to the observation that the stark facia panel of the Austin 1800 might remind women drivers of their domestic appliances.


I think we ought to watch
Japanese cars...

Spen King

“When I first went to Triumph in 1967, I said to bosses Donald Stokes and George Turnbull, ‘I think we ought to watch Japanese cars, because the quality is so good.’ They didn’t show any interest”


This is the beginning of a very exciting
era for British Leyland...

Donald Stokes, speaking on the future of British Leyland at the launch of the Allegro in 1973.

"This is the beginning of a very exciting era for British Leyland, and I think our designers, engineers and production men are going to provide you with a British motor industry of which you will be very proud."


A 50-50 chance of survival.

Michael Edwardes giving odds on the future of BL.


It's like sitting in a bloody goldfish bowl.

Harry Webster's assessment of a glassy Pininfarina proposal for project ADO28, the Morris Marina.


I am not a stylist, although everyone
identifies me as one.

Roy Haynes, designer of the Morris Marina and Mini Clubman.


You know what BMC stands for, don't yer?
Bugger my competitors.

Leonard Lord


A camel is a horse designed by committee.

Alec Issigonis


If it wasn’t so ugly, I would shoot myself.

Aurelio Lampredi

John Cooper was fond of telling a story about taking a prototype Mini to the 1959 Italian Grand Prix, where he met former Ferrari designer Aurelio Lampredi, then working for Fiat. Lampredi took a Mini for a test drive and was away for ages. When he came back he said, "If it wasn't so ugly, I would shoot myself"!

Contributed by Ian Nicholls


All right. I'll give it a go.

Joe Edwards, making what he later described as "a statement which I may regret forever".

It was with these words, at a meeting on 14 January 1968, that Edwards reluctantly agreed to the merger with Leyland Motors.


I was told that the Rover V8 wouldn’t
fit into the Triumph Stag.

Spen King

“I believed it when I was told that the Rover V8 wouldn’t fit into the Triumph Stag. I’m sure the car would have been a great success with an engine more reliable than the Triumph V8 we fitted instead.”


Market research is bunk!

Alec Issigonis, echoing Henry Ford's famous line that "history is bunk".


Seat of the pants decisions are dead.

Kevin Morley

“Seat of the pants decisions are dead. I could quote you examples of cars which have researched badly, but somebody said, ‘let’s do it anyway’. They bombed”.


The 99 per cent of the work force who
want to get on with the job have not
yet found a way of neutralizing the one
per cent who want to paralyse us.

Michael Edwardes, on the shop stewards.


Oh yes – I'm Arrogonis!

Alec Issigonis, gleefully acknowledging the nickname he had earned at Cowley.


I'm not in business to make cars,
I'm in business to make money.

Donald Stokes


That’s what’s wrong with BMC, always needing
12 men to do what six should be doing.

Harold Wilson, Prime Minister, at the 1966 Labour Conference in Brighton

Wilson had arranged to meet a delegation of six BMC shop stewards, but instead, twelve marched it. It held equally true with regard to overmanning in the company at the time.


Available like Coca-Cola.

A senior BMH sales executive commenting on the company's sprawling network of sales and service outlets.


God damn these bloody awful bubble-cars.
We must drive them off the streets...

Leonard Lord

Alec Issigonis recalled that Leonard Lord had intiated the Mini development project with the words: "God damn these bloody awful bubble-cars. We must drive them off the streets by designing a proper miniature car."


The biggest public sector lame duck of all time.

Michael Edwardes’ description of BL.


Young people do not want to drive an Austin.

Graham Day, on why the Austin badges were removed from Metros, Maestros and Montegos during 1987.


If the formation of British Leyland was the answer,
it must have been a bloody stupid question.

Unrecorded motoring journalist’s comments regarding Leyland’s takeover of BMC.


Oh my God! They've done it to the
other side as well.

Giorgetto Giugiaro (allegedly), on viewing the TR7 for the first time.

On his first viewing of the Triumph TR7 at the Geneva Motor Show in 1975, Italian designer Giorgetto Giugiaro paused to take a long look at the car. Pondering its styling, he is said to have looked at it in a puzzled way and then walked around the car, only to say, “Oh my God! They've done it to the other side as well.” This was no doubt a reference to the fact that during the development of a new model, different styling solutions are often tried out on each side of a full-size clay model of the car – and Giugiaro obviously thought that the TR7 looked so bizarre that it could in no way be a production car!


Ridiculously stark – like a hen coop.

Donald Stokes, on the original design for the Maxi interior.


Well, we won’t for much longer.

Bernd Pischetsrieder, on hearing in 1993 that BMW's new acquisition, Rover, was still building the Maestro and Montego.


I know there are tens of thousands of such
people, but I will not design cars for them.

Alec Issigonis

Issigonis firmly believed that 'if you style a car, it goes out of date.' When his friend, the distinguished motoring journalist Laurence Pomeroy pointed out that however much he might dislike the fact, many buyers rated styling above functional qualities like economy, ease of parking and cornering power, Issigonis replied "Yes, my dear Pom, I know there are tens of thousands of such people, but I will not design cars for them."


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